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Немецкие Судеты. Возвращение на родину.
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Эт свидомая тупая жвачка годна только для внутреннего потребления жителями "404" 
А теперь, Элька, можешь наконец радостно обкакаться в свои штанишки.. а можешь апстену
Но, вначале чмокни свою кормилицу!
А теперь, Элька, можешь наконец радостно обкакаться в свои штанишки.. а можешь апстену
Но, вначале чмокни свою кормилицу!
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Кормидица печеньками, ёпрст...
"Кроме высшего образования надо иметь хотя бы среднее соображение" (С)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
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Кормидица кормидица, страшная страшная, да просто сцучка она крашеная, йопть!HariusHek писал(а):Кормидица...
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Чо, чертила, подкараулил опечатку?
Заголовки разделов из трёх путеводителей по журналам "Радио" с 1973 по 1990 годы.Как видно, телевизоры у нас выпускались для того, чтоб их ремонтировать и усовершенствовать.
Заголовки разделов из трёх путеводителей по журналам "Радио" с 1973 по 1990 годы.Как видно, телевизоры у нас выпускались для того, чтоб их ремонтировать и усовершенствовать.
"Кроме высшего образования надо иметь хотя бы среднее соображение" (С)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
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А то, йопть!HariusHek писал(а): подкараулил опечатку?
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Свидомые не люди. Что с них взять. Нация поломоек и проституток, свидомия.ELcat писал(а):Немецкие Судеты. Возвращение на родину.
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Но они-ж бля смешные, вот в чём покос! 
Где-ж ещё таких скачущих клоунов-то сыскать?
Где-ж ещё таких скачущих клоунов-то сыскать?
Re: Все ЗА и ПРОТИВ исторических фактов России, спорить тут!
Этот тоже свидомый, наверное?

И ещё в догоночку. Теперь сами поскачите.
чПокни сам! В отличии от тебя фуфел неипу.Psychotherapeutics писал(а):Но, вначале чмокни свою кормилицу!
И ещё в догоночку. Теперь сами поскачите.
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Опять какого-то горячечного суперреволюционера проталкиваешь тут?
У него должностей больше, чем ему лет.
http://www.ruspravda.info/Sulakshin-i-K ... 16296.html
У него должностей больше, чем ему лет.
"Кроме высшего образования надо иметь хотя бы среднее соображение" (С)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
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Хариус-хек, ты наверное и будильник свой, который тебя будит по утрам на работу, бранью кроешь?
Такие как эти люди - тоже своего рода "будильники". Пора уже просыпаться!
Такие как эти люди - тоже своего рода "будильники". Пора уже просыпаться!
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Будильник не ругаю, а суету не люблю. Тем более вокруг говновбросов.
Роль человека в первую очередь прожить жизнь по человечески. Будильников в человеческом обличье мне не надо, см. мою подпись.
Роль человека в первую очередь прожить жизнь по человечески. Будильников в человеческом обличье мне не надо, см. мою подпись.
"Кроме высшего образования надо иметь хотя бы среднее соображение" (С)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
"Умные люди на то и умны, чтоб разбираться в запутанных вещах." (М.Булгаков)
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Канешна не ты, потому как она вас всехELcat писал(а):чПокни сам! В отличии от тебя фуфел неипу.Psychotherapeutics писал(а):Но, вначале чмокни свою кормилицу!
Аха-ха, а это твоя такая национальная традиция...ELcat писал(а):И ещё в догоночку. Теперь сами поскачите.
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Смотрел тут в записи Евробыдленье 2016. ИМХО, Россия 3-е место - не справедливо! Объективно выступление С.Лазарева самое зрелищное, хотя и присутствовали заимствованные элементы, да и отсутствие национального колорита не есть комильфо. Первое место Джамалы явно включает политические баллы. Я уже молчу про выступление австралийки-кореянки - чистый закос под "Lady Gaga".
Интересен и зрительский балл: Украина Лазареву - 12 баллов, Россия Джамале - 10. Думаю, эти оценки вполне объективны.
Интересен и зрительский балл: Украина Лазареву - 12 баллов, Россия Джамале - 10. Думаю, эти оценки вполне объективны.
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Не думай - тебе вредно.
Правило для российского гражданина: Во всем принимай сторону России, независимо от того, кто Россию возглавляет в данный момент, и какая страна или страны ей противостоят. Руководствуйся мудростью: "Россия, - всё, остальное - ничто!"
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Два факта.Парад на Красной площади 9 мая 1965 года прошёл в День Победы, в 20-ю годовщину со дня окончания Великой Отечественной войны, впервые после Парада Победы 1945 года. Указом Президиума Верховного Совета СССР от 25 апреля 1965 года 9 Мая был объявлен нерабочим днем и всенародным праздником (До этого, в 1948-1964, в связи с Указом Президиума Верховного Совета СССР от 23 декабря 1947 года Об объявлении 1 января нерабочим днём, день 9 мая — оставаясь праздником победы над Германией являлся рабочим днем).
1. Второй парад победы состоялся через 20 лет после первого.
2. 9 мая стал нерабочим днем только начиная с 1965 года.
Вопрос, собственно, один. Почему?
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http://www.tomatobubble.com/id550.html
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It should be noted that Benjamin Disraeli was very closely attached to the House of Rothschild (3); the wealthiest family in world history. (4) The Rothschild enmity towards Russia is now 200 years old. As we shall see later on, the anti-Putin Rothschild Banking Dynasty is still working against Russia to this very day.
Disreali's invasion of Afghanistan ended badly for the British. They withdrew in 1880 and Disreli's political influence was finally checked. This fierce historic rivalry between Russia and Rothschild-Britain became known as "The Great Game"; the chessboard being Afghanistan. Indeed, "The Great Game" is still being played to this day. And you thought we went into Afghaintan to "get Osama Bin Laden"!
In 1881, Tsar Alexander II was assassinated after the 5th attempt on his life. Bomb throwing Red terrorists (Communists / Anarchists) were responsible. The Tsar’s son, Alexander III, and grandson, Nicholas watched the Tsar’s legs get blown off. The resulting anti Red backlash caused many Reds to flee to America. Wonderful!
By 1905, the Reds, partially funded from western sources (long story but true) were strong enough to attempt a violent overthrow of the Tsar. That fateful year also witnessed the bombing assassination of Tsar Nicholas’s uncle, Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich, and the loss of a war with Japan. During that war, the Japanese received massive financial assistance from Wall Street banker Jacob Schiff, (5) as well as some final diplomatic favoritism from Wall Street’s wholly owned warmonger, President Theodore Roosevelt. (6) (The historical image of a blue blooded TR being the scourge of the Wall Street “Robber Barons” is mythical; as is the image of TR the ‘war hero’.)
After the war, Japan expressed its gratitude to Schiff by awarding him the Order of the Sacred Treasure. In 1907 he was again honored with the Japanese Order of the Rising Sun. Schiff was personally awarded the Order by Emperor Meiji in the Imperial Palace.
Schiff’s support of the Japanese military was not motivated by any special love for Japan, of course. What motivated Schiff was the ongoing mutual animosity between Tsarist Russians and the Jews of Russia; an animosity that was also shared by the House of Rothschild. During the late 1700’s, ancestors of the Schiffs and the Rothschilds had actually shared a double house in Frankfurt, Germany. (7)
Though the Red uprising was finally put down, Russian prestige and position had been weakened, both at home and abroad. Many of the Red terrorists who managed to get out of Russia obtained refuge in Western Europe or America. Leon Trotsky and his gang actually settled in Brooklyn; where they plotted their future return.
In 1911, Russia’s popular reformist Prime Minister, Pyotr Stolypin, was shot to death in the Kiev Opera House; in front of Tsar Nicholas and his two daughters.
In 1914, Russia, having been cleverly lured into an alliance with new “friends” France and Britain, and seeking to settle old scores with the Ottoman Turks, joined what would soon turn into “World War I”. Unfortunately for Russia, Turkey was party to an alliance with Germany and Austria-Hungary (both of which had been Russian allies until British Prime Minister Disraeli caused a ‘divorce’ in 1878) (8). This therefore pitted Russia against Germany and Austria-Hungary in a mutually destructive war that was to soon bring down all three Empires, and Ottoman Turkey too.

1: Rothschild agent Benjamin Disraeli was Russia’s arch nemesis.
2: Tsar Alexander II (Liberator of the Serfs) was killed by a Red bomb.

3: Wall Street bankers and Teddy Roosevelt favored Japan over Russia.

4: Red terrorist Trotsky escaped to New York.
CHAPTER 2
The Bolshevik / Soviet Revolution
As they had during the 1905 War with Japan, the Communist revolutionaries used popular discontent over World War I and an economic crisis to foment another attempt at Revolution in 1917. The Bolshevik Reds promised agitated mobs that they would bring about a “worker’s paradise” - an earlier version of “Hope & Change”. Red leader Lenin returned to Russia in “the sealed train”, bringing with him sacks of gold given to him by the German banker Max Warburg; whose brother Paul was the chief architect behind the 1913 founding of the Federal Reserve System (Central Bank of the United States). Warburg and the German government knew that a revolution would undermine the Russian government and ultimately knock Russia out of the war. But Warburg’s motives were less than “patriotic”.
Financiers such as the Warburg Brothers, the Rothschild Clan, John D Rockefeller, JP Morgan and Jacob Schiff coveted control over Russia’s vast territory and resources. They saw the mighty Empire as the chief obstacle to their ultimate vision of global economic integration; an ambitious idea which, even back then, was openly discussed within the elite circles of London, Paris and New York.
In February of 1917, Tsar Nicholas was forced to abdicate. Russia became a democratic Republic led by the socialist Alexander Kerensky. The Tsar and his family were taken into custody with the expectation that they would eventually be exiled. Probably due Rothschild’s influence, Britain, the Tsar’s supposed “ally” refused to grant asylum to the Romanov family.
In October of that same year, the Bolsheviks staged a second revolution. Kerensky was overthrown and the Bolsheviks seized the city of St. Petersburg. Their dictatorial power grab would trigger a civil war. When the Tsar and his family fell into Bolshevik hands, efforts to exile the Romanovs ceased.
The Royal Family was marked for death. As a boy, Tsar Nicholas had witnessed the bombing murder of his grandfather, Alexander II, in 1881. The same fate now awaits him and his beautiful family.
On the evening of Jukly 16/17, 1918, the Romanov Family was awakened at 2AM, told to dress, and then herded into the cellar of the house in which they were being held. Moments later, Bolshevik killers stormed in and gunned down the entire family, their doctor and three servants. Some of the Romanov daughters were stabbed and clubbed to death after initial gunfire had failed to kill them. News of the brutal murder of the Romanovs sent shock waves throughout Russia and all of Christian Europe.
For the next 4 years, a civil war between the Reds and the “Whites” raged throughout Russia. Against this backdrop, the Communist International, known as “The Comintern”, was established in Moscow. The Comintern stated openly that its intention was to fight "by all available means, including armed force, for the overthrow of the international "bourgeoisie" (the entrepreneurial class) and for the creation of an international Soviet republic (world government)."

The Communist Party of America was also part of the Trotsky-Lenin ‘Comintern’
To win the Civil War, the Reds used strategic terror to intimidate their White adversaries into submission. On orders from Lenin and Trotsky, the "Red Terror" was announced by Yakov Sverlov. The Red Terror was marked by mass arrests in the middle of the night, executions, and hideously creative tactics of torture. As many as 100,000 Russians were brutally tortured and murdered during the Red Terror, carried out by the ‘Cheka’ (secret police).
Lenin and Trotsky’s oppression of the Russian people broke their strength and will to resist the Reds. ‘The Famine of 1921’ was partly due to the folly of central economic planning, as well as to a deliberate effort to kill off any Russians still not willing to support the Red takeover.
The Communists-Bolsheviks had run the money-printing presses to finance their civil war and welfare schemes. When inflation followed, they imposed price controls; causing farmers to lose money by farming. The shortages were compounded by the Reds’ seizure of seeds and food. The horrific famine was then used to selectively feed those regions submissive to the Reds, and starve out those loyal to the White factions.
Hungry Russians and Ukrainians resorted to eating grass and even cannibalism. The horror escalated when Lenin deliberately blocked foreign relief efforts. When the death toll reached 8-10 million, (1) Lenin finally relented. Were it not for the mostly American aid, the death toll for Lenin and Trotsky’s cruel folly might have doubled or tripled.
The demoralizing terror took a heavy psychological toll on the frightened people of the former Russian Empire. By 1922, many will have been broken into total submission to the Red monsters of the dreaded Cheka. At the conclusion of the Red Terror, Red Famine, and Red-White Civil War, Lenin and Trotsky formally established the Soviet Union with its capital city in Moscow. The former Russian Empire was now also known as the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).
The Communist giant spanned the Eurasian landmass. Of its multi-ethnic "republics" the Russian republic was by far the largest and most populated. The well-known criminal brutality of the Soviets shocked the world, as did the bold Communist declarations to overthrow all other nations from within; including the United States. For these reasons, three consecutive American Presidents (Harding, Coolidge, Hoover), all refused to diplomatically recognize the Soviet Union. It was not until 1933 that President Franklin D Roosevelt, with string support from the NY Times & Washington Post, granted recognition to the Soviet Union.
As Bolshevism fastened its death grip over Russia, the parallel movement known as Globalism was gaining added momentum in the West. During this time, the Royal Institute of International Affairs (now Chatham House) was founded in London and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) was established in New York City, with “Father of the Federal Reserve” Paul Warburg serving as CFR’s first Director. To this day, these influential “think tanks” work toward global economic and political integration. To that end, these same players set up the ‘League of Nations’ (forerunner of the United Nations) soon after the end of World War I.
"Chatham House Rules" of secrecy govern the members of both of these exclusive clubs. Membership is by invitation only. Members may discuss generalities of group meetings, but are expected to remain discreet concerning who attends the meetings and what is said.
Up until the present day, the membership roster of the CFR & Chatham has consisted of top names from politics, media, banking, business, and academia. Membership has included Finance Capitalists, Communists, “Neo-Conservatives”, ambitious careerists, and starry eyed academic types. The chosen few recruited by these Globalist groups often find themselves on a fast track to greater fame and fortune. Prior to the actual establishment of the CFR, these Globalists had worked to destroy the Tsar. Today, their successors seek to destroy Putin.
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It should be noted that Benjamin Disraeli was very closely attached to the House of Rothschild (3); the wealthiest family in world history. (4) The Rothschild enmity towards Russia is now 200 years old. As we shall see later on, the anti-Putin Rothschild Banking Dynasty is still working against Russia to this very day.
Disreali's invasion of Afghanistan ended badly for the British. They withdrew in 1880 and Disreli's political influence was finally checked. This fierce historic rivalry between Russia and Rothschild-Britain became known as "The Great Game"; the chessboard being Afghanistan. Indeed, "The Great Game" is still being played to this day. And you thought we went into Afghaintan to "get Osama Bin Laden"!
In 1881, Tsar Alexander II was assassinated after the 5th attempt on his life. Bomb throwing Red terrorists (Communists / Anarchists) were responsible. The Tsar’s son, Alexander III, and grandson, Nicholas watched the Tsar’s legs get blown off. The resulting anti Red backlash caused many Reds to flee to America. Wonderful!
By 1905, the Reds, partially funded from western sources (long story but true) were strong enough to attempt a violent overthrow of the Tsar. That fateful year also witnessed the bombing assassination of Tsar Nicholas’s uncle, Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich, and the loss of a war with Japan. During that war, the Japanese received massive financial assistance from Wall Street banker Jacob Schiff, (5) as well as some final diplomatic favoritism from Wall Street’s wholly owned warmonger, President Theodore Roosevelt. (6) (The historical image of a blue blooded TR being the scourge of the Wall Street “Robber Barons” is mythical; as is the image of TR the ‘war hero’.)
After the war, Japan expressed its gratitude to Schiff by awarding him the Order of the Sacred Treasure. In 1907 he was again honored with the Japanese Order of the Rising Sun. Schiff was personally awarded the Order by Emperor Meiji in the Imperial Palace.
Schiff’s support of the Japanese military was not motivated by any special love for Japan, of course. What motivated Schiff was the ongoing mutual animosity between Tsarist Russians and the Jews of Russia; an animosity that was also shared by the House of Rothschild. During the late 1700’s, ancestors of the Schiffs and the Rothschilds had actually shared a double house in Frankfurt, Germany. (7)
Though the Red uprising was finally put down, Russian prestige and position had been weakened, both at home and abroad. Many of the Red terrorists who managed to get out of Russia obtained refuge in Western Europe or America. Leon Trotsky and his gang actually settled in Brooklyn; where they plotted their future return.
In 1911, Russia’s popular reformist Prime Minister, Pyotr Stolypin, was shot to death in the Kiev Opera House; in front of Tsar Nicholas and his two daughters.
In 1914, Russia, having been cleverly lured into an alliance with new “friends” France and Britain, and seeking to settle old scores with the Ottoman Turks, joined what would soon turn into “World War I”. Unfortunately for Russia, Turkey was party to an alliance with Germany and Austria-Hungary (both of which had been Russian allies until British Prime Minister Disraeli caused a ‘divorce’ in 1878) (8). This therefore pitted Russia against Germany and Austria-Hungary in a mutually destructive war that was to soon bring down all three Empires, and Ottoman Turkey too.
1: Rothschild agent Benjamin Disraeli was Russia’s arch nemesis.
2: Tsar Alexander II (Liberator of the Serfs) was killed by a Red bomb.

3: Wall Street bankers and Teddy Roosevelt favored Japan over Russia.
4: Red terrorist Trotsky escaped to New York.
CHAPTER 2
The Bolshevik / Soviet Revolution
As they had during the 1905 War with Japan, the Communist revolutionaries used popular discontent over World War I and an economic crisis to foment another attempt at Revolution in 1917. The Bolshevik Reds promised agitated mobs that they would bring about a “worker’s paradise” - an earlier version of “Hope & Change”. Red leader Lenin returned to Russia in “the sealed train”, bringing with him sacks of gold given to him by the German banker Max Warburg; whose brother Paul was the chief architect behind the 1913 founding of the Federal Reserve System (Central Bank of the United States). Warburg and the German government knew that a revolution would undermine the Russian government and ultimately knock Russia out of the war. But Warburg’s motives were less than “patriotic”.
Financiers such as the Warburg Brothers, the Rothschild Clan, John D Rockefeller, JP Morgan and Jacob Schiff coveted control over Russia’s vast territory and resources. They saw the mighty Empire as the chief obstacle to their ultimate vision of global economic integration; an ambitious idea which, even back then, was openly discussed within the elite circles of London, Paris and New York.
In February of 1917, Tsar Nicholas was forced to abdicate. Russia became a democratic Republic led by the socialist Alexander Kerensky. The Tsar and his family were taken into custody with the expectation that they would eventually be exiled. Probably due Rothschild’s influence, Britain, the Tsar’s supposed “ally” refused to grant asylum to the Romanov family.
In October of that same year, the Bolsheviks staged a second revolution. Kerensky was overthrown and the Bolsheviks seized the city of St. Petersburg. Their dictatorial power grab would trigger a civil war. When the Tsar and his family fell into Bolshevik hands, efforts to exile the Romanovs ceased.
The Royal Family was marked for death. As a boy, Tsar Nicholas had witnessed the bombing murder of his grandfather, Alexander II, in 1881. The same fate now awaits him and his beautiful family.
On the evening of Jukly 16/17, 1918, the Romanov Family was awakened at 2AM, told to dress, and then herded into the cellar of the house in which they were being held. Moments later, Bolshevik killers stormed in and gunned down the entire family, their doctor and three servants. Some of the Romanov daughters were stabbed and clubbed to death after initial gunfire had failed to kill them. News of the brutal murder of the Romanovs sent shock waves throughout Russia and all of Christian Europe.
For the next 4 years, a civil war between the Reds and the “Whites” raged throughout Russia. Against this backdrop, the Communist International, known as “The Comintern”, was established in Moscow. The Comintern stated openly that its intention was to fight "by all available means, including armed force, for the overthrow of the international "bourgeoisie" (the entrepreneurial class) and for the creation of an international Soviet republic (world government)."

The Communist Party of America was also part of the Trotsky-Lenin ‘Comintern’
To win the Civil War, the Reds used strategic terror to intimidate their White adversaries into submission. On orders from Lenin and Trotsky, the "Red Terror" was announced by Yakov Sverlov. The Red Terror was marked by mass arrests in the middle of the night, executions, and hideously creative tactics of torture. As many as 100,000 Russians were brutally tortured and murdered during the Red Terror, carried out by the ‘Cheka’ (secret police).
Lenin and Trotsky’s oppression of the Russian people broke their strength and will to resist the Reds. ‘The Famine of 1921’ was partly due to the folly of central economic planning, as well as to a deliberate effort to kill off any Russians still not willing to support the Red takeover.
The Communists-Bolsheviks had run the money-printing presses to finance their civil war and welfare schemes. When inflation followed, they imposed price controls; causing farmers to lose money by farming. The shortages were compounded by the Reds’ seizure of seeds and food. The horrific famine was then used to selectively feed those regions submissive to the Reds, and starve out those loyal to the White factions.
Hungry Russians and Ukrainians resorted to eating grass and even cannibalism. The horror escalated when Lenin deliberately blocked foreign relief efforts. When the death toll reached 8-10 million, (1) Lenin finally relented. Were it not for the mostly American aid, the death toll for Lenin and Trotsky’s cruel folly might have doubled or tripled.
The demoralizing terror took a heavy psychological toll on the frightened people of the former Russian Empire. By 1922, many will have been broken into total submission to the Red monsters of the dreaded Cheka. At the conclusion of the Red Terror, Red Famine, and Red-White Civil War, Lenin and Trotsky formally established the Soviet Union with its capital city in Moscow. The former Russian Empire was now also known as the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).
The Communist giant spanned the Eurasian landmass. Of its multi-ethnic "republics" the Russian republic was by far the largest and most populated. The well-known criminal brutality of the Soviets shocked the world, as did the bold Communist declarations to overthrow all other nations from within; including the United States. For these reasons, three consecutive American Presidents (Harding, Coolidge, Hoover), all refused to diplomatically recognize the Soviet Union. It was not until 1933 that President Franklin D Roosevelt, with string support from the NY Times & Washington Post, granted recognition to the Soviet Union.
As Bolshevism fastened its death grip over Russia, the parallel movement known as Globalism was gaining added momentum in the West. During this time, the Royal Institute of International Affairs (now Chatham House) was founded in London and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) was established in New York City, with “Father of the Federal Reserve” Paul Warburg serving as CFR’s first Director. To this day, these influential “think tanks” work toward global economic and political integration. To that end, these same players set up the ‘League of Nations’ (forerunner of the United Nations) soon after the end of World War I.
"Chatham House Rules" of secrecy govern the members of both of these exclusive clubs. Membership is by invitation only. Members may discuss generalities of group meetings, but are expected to remain discreet concerning who attends the meetings and what is said.
Up until the present day, the membership roster of the CFR & Chatham has consisted of top names from politics, media, banking, business, and academia. Membership has included Finance Capitalists, Communists, “Neo-Conservatives”, ambitious careerists, and starry eyed academic types. The chosen few recruited by these Globalist groups often find themselves on a fast track to greater fame and fortune. Prior to the actual establishment of the CFR, these Globalists had worked to destroy the Tsar. Today, their successors seek to destroy Putin.
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«Бремя доказательства лежит на том, кто утверждает, а не на том, кто отрицает.»
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Re: Все ЗА и ПРОТИВ исторических фактов России, спорить тут!
Автор данной версии Антонио Поссевино, монах ордена Иезуитов, посланник Папы римского к Ивану IV Грозному. В последствии эту версию повторил мошенник Карамзин в своем лживом экзерсисе "История государства Российского". Следует учесть, что ни в одной летописи нет ни единого упоминания об этом яко бы убийстве. Как же лжеисторик Карамзин мог сделать известные выводы не обращая внимания на такие важные исторические документы, как летописи? Впоследствии господин Репин написал на эту тему картину (лживый пасквиль), чем вызвал возмущение Петербургской общественности.Исполненный благородной ревности цесаревич пришел к родителю и потребовал освободить Псков, изгнать неприятеля, восстановить честь Российской империи. В гневе Иоанн закричал, что сын вместе с боярами хочет свергнуть его с престола, и поднял руку. Ее попытался удержать Борис Годунов, однако царь своим острым жезлом нанес дворянину несколько ранений, а затем с силой ударил в голову цесаревича. Тот упал, обливаясь кровью. Смерть Ивана – сына Ивана Грозного – наступила мгновенно.
Сейчас ДОКАЗАНО. Иван IV Грозный НЕ УБИВАЛ СВОЕГО СЫНА.
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DNK писал(а):Сейчас ДОКАЗАНО. Иван IV Грозный НЕ УБИВАЛ СВОЕГО СЫНА.
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Re: Все ЗА и ПРОТИВ исторических фактов России, спорить тут!
1 Ни одна летопись не говорит об убийстве. Лишь о смерти сына Грозного царя.
"...В полном собрании русских летописей под годом 7090 (от сотворения мира) читаем: Преставися царевич Иоанн Иоаннович... "
"Пискаревский летописец: в 12 час нощи лета 7090 ноября в 17 день преставление царевича Иоанна Иоанновича."
"Новгородская 4-я летопись: Того же (7090) году преставися царевич Иоанн Иоаннович на утрени в Слободе."
Нету упоминания об убийстве и в воспоминаниях современников.
Сохранилось письмо Ивана Грозного.
"От Великого князя Ивана Васильевича Всея Руси боярину нашему Никите Ивановичу Юрьеву да дьяку нашему Андрею Щелкалову. Которого вы дня от нас поехали и того дни Иван сын разнемогся и нынче болен." Т.е. Сын Ивана Грозного серьезно заболел в дни перед смертью.
Французский офицер Жак Моржере, долго служивший при дворе Ивана грозного: "...и умер царевич от болезни, в путешествии на богомолье."
Есть другие свидетельства.
2. В 1963 году В Архангельском соборе московского Кремля было проведено вскрытие гробниц
- Царя Ивана IV Грозного
- Его сына царевича Иоанна
- Царя Федора Иоанновича
- Князя Михаила Скотина-Шуйского
Были проведены спектральные, химические и другие исследования останков царевича. Очень хорошо сохранились волосы царевича. Следов крови на них НЕТ. Следов удара на черепе царевича НЕТ.
"...В полном собрании русских летописей под годом 7090 (от сотворения мира) читаем: Преставися царевич Иоанн Иоаннович... "
"Пискаревский летописец: в 12 час нощи лета 7090 ноября в 17 день преставление царевича Иоанна Иоанновича."
"Новгородская 4-я летопись: Того же (7090) году преставися царевич Иоанн Иоаннович на утрени в Слободе."
Нету упоминания об убийстве и в воспоминаниях современников.
Сохранилось письмо Ивана Грозного.
"От Великого князя Ивана Васильевича Всея Руси боярину нашему Никите Ивановичу Юрьеву да дьяку нашему Андрею Щелкалову. Которого вы дня от нас поехали и того дни Иван сын разнемогся и нынче болен." Т.е. Сын Ивана Грозного серьезно заболел в дни перед смертью.
Французский офицер Жак Моржере, долго служивший при дворе Ивана грозного: "...и умер царевич от болезни, в путешествии на богомолье."
Есть другие свидетельства.
2. В 1963 году В Архангельском соборе московского Кремля было проведено вскрытие гробниц
- Царя Ивана IV Грозного
- Его сына царевича Иоанна
- Царя Федора Иоанновича
- Князя Михаила Скотина-Шуйского
Были проведены спектральные, химические и другие исследования останков царевича. Очень хорошо сохранились волосы царевича. Следов крови на них НЕТ. Следов удара на черепе царевича НЕТ.


